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Re: soft source question - TDR simulation
Good idea, but I cannot specify a hard source with a resistance. I might
be able to insert a spice resistor as a port in series with a hard source,
though. I will try it and let the list know ...
Thanks though Ian!
Andy
On Mon, 11 Oct 1999, RUMSEY IAN SCOTT wrote:
> andy-
> Try a hard resistive source. Part of the magic of the soft source
> is that it's always matched to any kind of line. That effect may be more
> significant than the series resistor, and I think that a hard source may
> be more realistic for a voltage-source-in-series-with-resitor type of
> driver.
>
>
> -Ian Rumsey
>
> On Mon, 11 Oct 1999, BYERS ANDREW CLARK wrote:
>
> > Hello all,
> > I have noticed a funny effect when I am using a resistive soft
> > source on a microstrip line in lc. What I want is a TDR-type of a source,
> > which is a driver with a series resistor that is approximately matched to
> > the impedance of the line. The initial voltage launched on the line is
> > then one half of the voltage source. This initial voltage is simply a
> > voltage divider between the line impedance and the source voltage.
> > For example, if you had a 1V source waveform, a 50 ohm source
> > resistor (Rs) and a 50 ohm line (Zo), the initial voltage is
> > Vinitial = (1V)*(50/100) = 0.5 V
> > This works fine in lc, for when I match the resistive source to the
> > (estimated) line impedance, the initial voltage is about 0.5V.
> >
> > Another example is when the line is overdriven, or the source
> > resistor is lower than the line impedance. If Rs=10, Z0=50, V=1V,
> > Vinitial = (1V)*(50/60) = 0.833 V
> > The same should be true for underdriven lines (Rs > Zo), where the initial
> > voltage is less that the desired 0.5V.
> >
> > Here is the problem: when I vary the resistance of the soft source
> > in lc, I do not see this variation in the initial voltage launched onto my
> > transmission line. I see some weak variation, but it appears that the
> > resistor is not working like I had suspected. I have not delved into the
> > theory too hard yet, but can anyone tell me if they have got this working
> > and how? Or why mine is not working? I am source the end of a microstrip
> > line that is open (ie not terminated into the PML). The source is 4-5
> > cells from the boundary. The source is the width of the line, etc, etc.
> >
> > Thanks in advance, Andy Byers
> >
>